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Edit Request 20 August 2019

Sarah Paulson is NOT returning this season. This is her first season not appearing, just like Evan Peters. ^[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:242:C200:A420:E1FC:9F25:B91F:50C6 (talk) 01:16, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.polygon.com/tv/2019/7/11/20690608/american-horror-story-1984-full-cast-photos-premiere-date

Requested move 6 August 2019

American Horror Story: 1984 → Draft:American Horror Story: 1984 – There was already a perfectly good article for this in mainspace, why has this been shunted aside ~~to American Horror Story: 1984 (version 2)~~ in a round robin move in favour of a twice rejected draft when the advice on both occasions was to merge any content into the existing page? PC78 (talk) 19:01, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 20:11, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: when the Draft:American Horror Story: 1984 page was moved during the course of this RM, it became a redirect and this discussion was placed in the Malformed requests section, so that page has been removed from this request. Paine Ellsworth, ed. ^put'r there 09:55, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What's the problem here? When I requested that the draft be moved to the mainspace given that filming had started, there was no article already in the mainspace, this link as a redirect. Any article content in the history was a copy-paste move that should not have occurred, because the attribution to the article's creation was at the draft, hence the requirement for a direct move. Why is someone requesting that this article be moved back to the draft space? What's going on? Leave this article where it is, close the move request, and be done with it. -- /Alex/₂₁ 06:46, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PC78: Other than a bit of unnecessary detail on who provided information on start of filming, and a shorter cast list, the "perfectly good" version is virtually idential to the current one. If this is about attribution, you should request a WP:HISTMERGE, not an undo of the move. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:46, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Ahecht: I doubt a history merge would be possible due to the two pages having parallel histories. But that doesn't address the question: why should this move stand when the new page is no better than the one it replaced? PC78 (talk) 20:46, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There's no reason to move the page again. Of the two, the "perfectly good" version appears to have copied and pasted from the draft in this edit (based on things like the reference names), so it's best to let the edit history stand as-is. (For the record, since "American Horror Story: 1984 (version 2)" is not really a suitable redirect in mainspace, I moved that version of the article to Draft:American Horror Story: 1984) --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:09, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, maybe, but the two pages diverged from that point and I still believe that the one already in mainspace should have been left where it was. But I don't see the point in moving the "original" into draft space; there's no need for a "draft" of an existing article, and for the sake of any attribution issues it should be necessary to keep that history in mainspace. PC78 (talk) 21:33, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Anthony Appleyard: Having queried your original undiscussed move, it would be helpful if you could engage in the discussion. Turning this into a formal RM discussion seems a little premature. PC78 (talk) 02:13, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The needed choice would seem to be, to choose, of the pages American Horror Story: 1984 and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:American_Horror_Story:_1984&oldid=906454165 , which is the better description of American Horror Story: 1984. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:03, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well, yes. I appreciate that your initial move was in response to a request ~~on this page~~ at WP:RM/TR and it's hard to know what level of consideration went into an undiscussed move. My initial concern was that moving a twice rejected draft into mainspace over an existing page doesn't seem entirely uncontroversial. However, if (as Ahecht suggests) the original article should be dismissed as a content fork of the draft then I'm happy to accept that and move on. I've got no stake in either version of the article, but this just seemed like a messy and unnecessary series of page moves. PC78 (talk) 04:30, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is a formal move request really necessary? As a matter or course, shouldn't an uncontroversial move be reverted when contested? Frankly I'm a little disappointed that Anthony Appleyard hasn't offered more to this discussion; is a reason for moving this page and a justification for letting it stand when challenged really too much to ask? I'm starting to wish I never said anything... PC78 (talk) 20:57, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging Lady Junky who seems to be the main contributor to the page now in draft space, and TedEdwards who is the main contributor to the page now in article space. While I would still appreciate some sort of response to the concerns that I've already raised, I shall otherwise leave this to whatever consencus decision is made. PC78 (talk) 21:12, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PC78, Ahecht, Lady Junky, and TedEdwards: The 2 pages seem to say about the same thing, likely due to copying between them. Best to leave American Horror Story: 1984 where it is. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:37, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I absolutely do not get the issue with this page. Why are we still debating about it? The page has to exist now as per WP:NTV, because the season clearly started filming. If contents are similar, it is prolly because I merged my own draft to the other draft when I was told it existed. As for the history part, merge it or not. Personally, I don't care if my name is listed there or not ^^ What is important is that the page exist now. The rest is trivial, at least to me. Lady Junky (talk) 00:02, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Names

Angelica Ross and Emma Roberts' characters are Rita and Brooke, respectively. They are revealed in the first trailer for the season and can be also confirmed by the closed captions for the Twitter post. ^[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mortal Aphrodite (talk • contribs) 20:44, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://twitter.com/AHSFX/status/1166033553416568832

Draft:List of American Horror Story: 1984 characters

Hi all

I have created a draft at Draft:List of American Horror Story: 1984 characters, that can be put into the mainspace when it meets the relevant policies and guidelines (including WP:Verifiability). All editors are welcome to edit it, regardless of experience etc. I will unfortunately not be able to edit the draft much.

Looking at the articles in Category:Lists of American Horror Story characters may serve as inspiration to what needs to go into the draft, but also remember other stuff exists!

I am pinging OnMyRadar, Lady Junky, Alex 21, Gagalandro, Mortal Aphrodite, and Magicladasha, as I believe you might be interested. If there are other users you think might be interested, please do notify them of the draft. Thank you --Ted Edwards 23:21, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Episode article links

There are the episode article links/redirects for Season 9's episodes, for ease of access to create the episode articles.

-- /Alex/₂₁ 02:17, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Except I've converted Episode 100 into a disambiguation page so use Episode 100 (American Horror Story) instead. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:10, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. The first link isn't titled "Episode 100", and the last two can simply be a hatnote. There is no other article titled "Episode 100", so no disambiguation is required. -- /Alex/₂₁ 03:44, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"1984 (2019 film)" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect 1984 (2019 film). Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 09:46, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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